Mark G. Kris, MD, shares his thoughts on the prominent advancements in the field of lung cancer, how liquid biopsies are shaping treatment decisions, and his predictions for the years ahead.
Mark G. Kris, MD
Lung cancer treatment has undergone a game-changing transformation within the past few years, with a burst of FDA approvals of targeted agents and immunotherapies across a number of indications. In the diagnostic arena, identifying targetable mutations through plasma-based assays versus a traditional biopsy has propelled the landscape even more.
Most recently, in October 2016, the FDA approved the PD-1 inhibitor pembrolizumab (Keytruda) for the frontline treatment of patients with metastatic nonsmall cell lung cancer whose tumors have ≥50% PD-L1 expression and who do not harborEGFRorALKaberrations. This was an update from pembrolizumab’s initial approval in the second-line setting in October 2015.
Pembrolizumab is joined by two other FDA-approved checkpoint inhibitors nivolumab (Opdivo) and atezolizumab (Tecentriq).
Numerous targeted agents have also been approved aimed at patients with EGFR and ALK mutations or abnormalities. For patients withEGFR-mutant tumors, afatinib (Gilotrif), erlotinib (Tarceva), and gefitinib (Iressa) are on hand, along with osimertinib (Tagrisso), a drug able to target the resistance mutationT790M. WithALK-positive patients, crizotinib (Xalkori), ceritinib (Zykadia), and alectinib (Alecensa) have been approved as targeted therapies, too.
These are just a handful of the advancements highlighted by Mark G. Kris, MD, a program chair of the11th Annual New York Lung Cancer Symposium®on November 12.
“One wonderful thing that comes out of theNY Lung Cancer Symposiumis seeing the number of practitioners that have a focus on lung cancer in our regionseeing their knowledge, their interests in research, and, most importantly, the passion that people have to do a better job for people with lung cancer,” said Kris. “One message of this meeting is when you see it in action, it’s really a beautiful thing, and it’s really good for our patients.”
In an interview withTargeted Oncology, Kris, a medical oncologist at Memorial Sloan Kettering Cancer Center, shares his thoughts on the prominent advancements in the field of lung cancer, how liquid biopsies are shaping treatment decisions, and his predictions for the years ahead.
TARGETED ONCOLOGY:There are many topics being presented at this year’s meeting. What are some of the highlights?
We are very excited about this meeting; it’s actually very special because it brings together individuals from many different specialties who treat lung cancers in the tristate area, and the meeting strives to assemble a diversity of experience with patients, a diversity of opinions regarding how to best treat patients, and then to share them in a very open and nonthreatening way. It is really unique. We try to share each other’s experience and, at the same time, do it in a context of presenting new developments in the field and things that have happened in the last year that have shaped therapy.
TARGETED ONCOLOGY:What are these advancements that have shaped therapy?
First, we have an evolution in how the targets [for targeted therapies] are found. There is more comprehensive mutational tissue testing and more available tissue testing. Now, in addition to tissue, you have the ability to detect these relevant mutations in bloodboth individual ones likeT790MorEGFRin next-generation sequencing (NGS) panels of mutations where you can assay what options are available for individual patients. That is something that is rapidly becoming a standard of care here in the United States.
More information is available, as well, about new drugs, such as osimertinib at time of acquired resistance and also as initial therapy. Crizotinib is here with its use inMETexon 14 skipping mutation, and with cabozantinib (Cabomeytx) and its use inRETall these topics are being discussed. Now, the great opportunity that we have with these multiple agents is how do we select which one to give first, and how do we decide which one to give second? What information is there to make these choices?
TARGETED ONCOLOGY:What sequencing challenges are we facing now?
The marketplace and individual institution initiatives in the area of testing are just going to move this field so quickly. The problem is which option to choose and not having availability. Many of the insurance carriers have said that when a result is needed, they are agnostic as to the way it is obtained, as long as it is done in a clean setting. A lot of the barriers are gone. The cost barriers are virtually gone. It’s going to get cheaper and cheaper, and more and more available.
The issue is, do you test blood or tissue? What do you do when you have chosen to use tissue until the tissue results are available? We have heard a range of different options. Some patients have blood-based tests for specific genes; others, like at my institution, use immunohistochemistry (IHC)-based tests. The beautiful thing about them is that they are part of the flow of pathology departments today, and it’s very easy for them to do that in any patient with a suspicion of lung cancer. This is because they’re already doing other IHC tests, so to add an additional one is very easy and sometimes the quickest way to do it.
TARGETED ONCOLOGY:We’ve been hearing buzz about liquid biopsies a lot this year. Will that trend continue?
For those patients that, for some reason, cannot have a tissue biopsy, it is going to be standard of care. I would say that, today, it is the standard of care. If you can’t do a biopsy, then you need that information. There are some issues there that the technology of interrogating hundreds of genes in a blood sample is a bit more daunting, because the amount of DNA that you get is variable. People with very limited spread of cancer often don’t have a lot of DNA; they might not be good candidates for that testing.
As time goes on though, there isn’t going to be a single answer to that. It depends on your healthcare environmentthe availability of tissue and of doctors providing tissue. If you are still doing a biopsy, then why not get all you can get out of that biopsy? Even using a blood-based test is kind of unnecessary if you have the tissue that you need.
TARGETED ONCOLOGY:There has been an explosion of agentsboth targeted and immunotherapeutic—over the last couple of years. Will they compete with one another?
If you take traditional cytotoxic chemotherapy, immunotherapy, and targeted therapy for those patients who have targets they are, in many ways, all relevant. There is not any firm evidence today that the success or failure with one or another predicts success or failure with the next one. If anything, they are parallel, likely sequential, and likely to derive benefit. EGFR is a good example. No matter when you get an EGFR inhibitorif you have a cancer that is wired that way—it’s going to work. That is going to continue and nothing is going to replace anything. The order of treatment will change but as people live longer, we are going to have the need for more treatments. My guess is that people are going to get them all at some point.
As we have seen in the last year, though, our ability to see or predict for whom these drugs are going to work is going to improve. With the selections that we make, the first choice will ideally be the one with the greatest chance of benefit for the patient. That is what we are going to see going forward.
TARGETED ONCOLOGY:In 1 year from now, what would you like to see accomplished?
We have an array of treatments. We should not get locked in the idea that there is any 1 treatment. Even ideas that were radical, such as operating on metastatic deposits on individuals with widely metastatic lung cancers, was considered totally inappropriate 10 years ago. Now, in the right patient, it’s the standard of care.
With each and every patient, we should put on our thinking capsoften with limited data available—to decide which approach to use first, what to choose as an alternative, and what is the alternative after that. That is the message today, and that is going to be the message for the next 5 years.
We are trying to figure all of this out. It is going to be tough, but they’re not going to be randomized trials that say, “do this” or “do that.” The field is moving too fast, and to wait 5 years to do a randomized trial is not going to happen anymore.